Elder Cook speaking to the camera and seeing the four groups with Carlos Aguiero, the translator in the foreground. |
Elder Maynes speaking |
Now let me go back to where I left off on the 15 of May:
15 Today we had the SASA Area Review. They set up the camera
in the nice Sala (conference room) with Elder Gonzalez center, and Elder Zeballos
on his right and Elder Vinas on his left.
I was off camera at the end of the table by Elder Zeballos and Bro
Michael Fuss was at the other end of the table. We were there to take notes of what was
taught and what the area presidency were asked to do.
It was impressive, especially, who was there. The twelve were there except Elder Packer and
Elder Anderson, who were on assignment, and the presiding bishopric and the
seven presidents of the seventy. Before
they began Elder Bednar mentioned that SASA’s question was very good and very
much like the question being asked by the Africa Area Presidency that would take
place next week. There was some small
talk, most of it directed at Elder Gonzalez’s choice of a tie which was a
striped tie with the colors of his Uruguay soccer team. They knew him well enough to recognize the teams
colors in the tie. Elder Perry conducted
then assigned Elder Christofferson to direct the discussions since he is over
this area. There was a briefing by an
Elder Porter then the SAS presidency gave their brief. They were asked to start with an update on
their families. All three were pleased
to be near their birthplaces and families.
Elder Vinas had been asked why they did not use family pictures and his
response was that this was the first time in 17 years that he was near his
family, consequently had never had an opportunity to take on - the seventy
really put in a lot of time. The
presidency’s main points were that the attendance remains flat even though
there is a continual supply of new converts.
Few wards have a critical mass to really get the leadership support they
need. Their question was how to maintain
a strong priesthood presence and grow it.
The meeting then turned into a brainstorming session. One of the things that came out was with all
the new missionaries coming into the field, we need to be creative in using
them. After all, they are full time
servants of the Lord who need to be put to work for the salvation of mankind.
16 Thur. Elder and
Sister Switzer are here as public relations missionaries. They invited us to go with them to the
largest mosque in South America (and very close by – we walked). They have been trying to set up some short
visits for Elder Cook to some of the local Churches and Government folks. Right now the government is in such an uproar
they could not set up anything but they have several of the big churches including the archbishop of Argentina (the spot once filled by the Catholics new Pope). Anyway we went with them and got a guided
tour of this place. I knew something of
Muslims but it was interesting to see how they tried to endocrine you during
the tour. Their argument is that the
Bible has been translated many times and has a lot of man’s own agendas added to it,
while their holy book has not ever changed so it is the most correct revelation
from God and so supersedes all other doctrines and prophets. They believe in Christ but that he was only a prophet not the Son of God or our Savior or that he brought about an atonement.
The guide asked what was Christ’s
greatest miracles and when someone said resurrection he responded, “no God
raised him up – only God raises man to everlasting life; Christ’s greatest
miracle was bringing the dead back alive but they, of course, still had to
die.” They believe God is unique above all his
creations and has no similarity to us in any way ( I am not sure how man was made in God's image then). So,
Christ becomes a prophet that is not the only begotten with the power to take away
the sins of the world or cause the resurrection of all mankind, just one in a
line of prophets. And the guide tried to defuse
a possible question about the Bible placing Christ as the Savior - the resurrection and the life, or son of God by giving
this analogy; if someone is a the end of the line at the store and he calls to
his friends and says, I am the last, he is only the last until another one
comes in line, while the prophet Mohamed said he was the final (or something like that in
English) so they claim he was really the last. (Wait until they hear about the restoration through the Prophet Joseph Smith.) When
asked about why women could not pray with men he said they could but men are
commanded to pray and women are not, although, God accepts their prayers, but since the men
bend over to pray the women would not be comfortable bending over with men, but a wife can pray with
her husband at home if they want. They
are definitely claiming they are the only true religion while trying to put on a
happy face for the public. What they loose is that since Christ is not their savior, they are still living an eye for an eye and so their entrance into to heaven is based on if they do more good than bad in their life. They never know where they stand and so live a very depressing life of uncertainty. That is why dying in action can be used as an enticement, because it assures them entrance into heaven no mater how bad they lived their life.
17 worked late (till a little after 7:00) on the
presidencies calendar with help from Yamila Caminos.
Joan and I walked her and her son, Lorenzo, to their bus stop. The Ex. Sec and assistant seem to have to work late most every night.
18 Saturday there was a stake service project planned. Here the schools are left in somewhat of
disarray. The government does not have
the funds to keep them up. The stake went
in and was patching the walls then painting them. We got there about 10:30. I painted and Joan cleaned until their lunch (about1:00
usually). Joan is pictured above with the Zobells. I will look for some more pictures of this later. The stake provided ham and
cheese on French rolls). We talked to
some of the members. One fellow was from
Denmark and he told us his interesting story in English. He had family (two sons) in the Netherlands
that had started going to the Jehovah witnesses (some of the family were JW
including this man’s brother) and called to tell him to go. Soon after a friend called and asked if he
wanted to go with him to his church (LDS) and he went. He took the lessons in a matter of a week and
left for the Netherlands. There he
visited the church and made friends with a couple. It took him about a year to finally be able
to get baptized. I'm in the background painting here.
That's me in the background doing some finishing painting. |
Shopping, rug and groceries. ( they have bakeries for bread
and vegetable stands for fruit and vegetables and small almacens (groceries)
and Jumbo which is like a very large grocery with some appliances and the first
floor is like a small mall and a small home depot.
19 I have to explain the apartment set up here. They have added these small 7-10 story
apartment complexes where there was once a home. Each is a u shaped complex with two
apartments on each floor (each side of the u).
The first floor has a garage door that opens to drive to the back
parking and a locked entry, usually a glass door, to a very small elevator (you
must have a key to get out as well as in the entry door). The apartment door has a very elaborate lock
that is a door lock and dead bolt in one.
There is a separate dead bolt you can lock only from the inside. Each of these little apartments is locked up
like a military installation, sometimes with an attendant inside.
Joan waiting a the bus stop Sunday morning to go to Church.
Joan waiting a the bus stop Sunday morning to go to Church.
Here we are with one of the women that Joan has made friends with at the front of the Church, which is a three story building with a locked entry and a back basket ball court that serves as a parking lot on Sunday.
Our 3 story Church building has overlapping wards |
Here Joan is walking home from Church with Sister Zobell. We ride the bus to Church but usually walk home with some of the other mission couples for the fellowship.
We walk just about everywhere for work, shopping, church and to visit the parks near by.
You said, "So it gave me a rare opportunity." You mean to do your computer wizardry, right?! Wow, I bet they were ecsatic to have your expertise. I'd like to have been there to see it all. Thanks for keeping us posted. Love you! Janet Baria
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